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[sarren]

When Ianto died my first reaction was anger and dismay that yet again the gay character had to die. But once I could think about it (and I was in denial for a while) it's clear to me that it's not about that, or at least not in the way people are reading it

Ianto died because he was important to Jack. And so did Steven, and he's lost Alice as well. And Tosh and Owen not very long ago. This show is about JACK'S tragedy.

They spent the first three episodes showing us how their relationship was becoming IMPORTANT, not 'showing that Ianto takes it up the ass and therefore has to die, and how could RTD of all people do that', as I saw one person say.

I don't know why they had Clem harp on about "the queer" - maybe to show that Ianto was defensive about it, to show that their relationship development wasn't all sunshine and roses and as easy as the previous episodes made it seem when it was just something that took place in the sanctuary of the Hub. That it was hard but that Ianto was doing it anyway because Jack was worth it. I mean, this series was also about showing Ianto's hidden depths - when his sister revealed that Ianto had been lying to them, that they didn't know him at all. *THAT* broke my heart.

And at the risk of quibbling - my favourite moment was Ianto's vulnerability when he 'fessed up to his sister and said "It's not men. It's just him. It's only him."

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[angriest.livejournal.com]

And at the risk of quibbling - my favourite moment was Ianto's vulnerability when he 'fessed up to his sister and said "It's not men. It's just him. It's only him."

That was gorgeous writing and beautiful acting right there.

[baby-elvis.livejournal.com]

I think they killed Ianto because they wanted to show a) how dangerous being in Torchwood is (to new viewers esp. who don't know who Tosh and Owen were) and b) to break Jack's heart, as you say. On a practical side - it was easier to kill him than Gwen because she's a lead character and he's more of a supporting one. And his being gay, and thus only the hetero couple surviving, was the collateral damage to this.

[sarren.livejournal.com]

I agree. If they'd killed Gwen they really wouldn't have had a Torchwood to revive if they do decide to do a season 4.

Plus since Gwen's marriage and the relationship with Ianto becoming more serious, Gwen and Jack aren't as close as they were (or as Jack would have liked them to be *g*)

[emma-in-oz.livejournal.com]

Also, Gwen gets to live because she's pregnant - it's all about the Children as it says in the very title.

(If only they had adopted....)

[sarren.livejournal.com]

If only Jack had gotten Ianto knocked up!

[zebra363.livejournal.com]

I know I shouldn't be reading spoilers, but

And at the risk of quibbling - my favourite moment was Ianto's vulnerability when he 'fessed up to his sister and said "It's not men. It's just him. It's only him."

Can't wait to see this!

[sarren.livejournal.com]

YOU ONLY HAD ONE MORE DAY TO WAIT. YOU ARE VERY NAUGHTY.